Souris Blanche
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Posted - 2011.05.15 11:31:00 -
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Originally by: Elrin Taal
So I can...
1- Make my own stuff in my own station (ships/modules) 2- Research, make copies and invent from BP's without fear of no lab being free. 3- Possibly do this free since im into PI and get fuel from that (assumption?)
I need however
1- Cash to buy startup control tower/lab/factory etc. 2- To be in my own corp (no npc corps?) and risk losing it if war dec'd by a big bad corp : 3- Skill and BP's to use in it :)
A couple things to note...
In the "so I can" section: 3.) POS fuel is NEVER free, even if you produce it yourself. The POS fuel you produce could of been sold if you had not used it, so it has a value, also know as Opportunity Costs. If you feel otherwise, stay away from an Industrial career because you will fail miserably.
In the "I need however" section: 1.) Cash/Startup Capital (ISK) can easily be acquired by purchasing a 60-Day GTC, converting it to PLEX, and selling it in-game. Now, I know that buying a GTC might not seem cheap especially if you are not well off in real life, but consider this... you can make tons of ISK per month with Hisec T2 Production, enough to pay for the game with ISK (PLEX bought on the market), so buying a GTC is cheaper than paying real money each month forever.
2.) There is very little risk of "losing it" if you are smart (or atleast not entirely stupid). Create your own corp, put up the POS, make ISK hand over fist until you get wardec'd, pull down the POS before the wardec goes live (you have 24 hrs), when wardec ends, redeploy the POS, get back to work.
3.) The skills are fairly easy to train, and some of the very profitable BPOs are extremely cheap to purchase. I use BPOs that cost less than 500K ISK each, and a few toons with less than a month of training time, and can make as much as 3 billion ISK profit per month). I would, however, not recommend starting until you have a minimum of Scientific Networking 1. If you have level 1, you can atleast leave your BPOs in the Corp Hangar of one of the stations in the system which makes them safe. If you have other people in the corp with you, lock the BPOs down so no one can steal them (and be the CEO/only director). DO NOT put a POS in a system without a station.
4.) Standings: You also need standings to put up a POS in hisec. Specifically, the unbonused standing of your CORP to the FACTION that has sovereignty in the system you want to put the pos in needs to be 10x whatever the security of the system is. In other words, to put a POS in a 0.5 system that is owned by Caldari, your corp needs a 5.0 or higher standing with Caldari, or to put a POS up in a 0.7 system owned my Minmatar, your corp needs a 7.0 or higher standign with Minmatar.
Another thing to remember is that any research (ME/PE) that you are doing on a BPO, and copying you are doing, and any invention you are doing are all considered Research Jobs, and each toon can only do so many research jobs at one time (max of 11 with maxed skills). That having been said, if you are going to do T2 production, I would recommend training one toon to do Invention and Manufacturing, and a second toon (or two more toons) to do Copying. That way, you are always producing T1 BPCs, and always inventing T2 BPCs.
On last thing to consider is how you are going to haul the raw materials and the finished products around. You definately do not want to be hauling around hundreds of millions of ISK worth of finished products around in an Industrial Ship. Industrials with very valuable cargo WILL eventually get ganked. I highly recommend training to fly an Orca (see this link). It is faster to travel in than a Freighter, Cheaper to buy, and safer (the Orca's Corp Hangar can not be scanned by would-be gankers). A buffer-fit Orca can have around 255,000 Effective HP, which makes them a fairly rigged target.
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